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    Posted by Lisa Brown on September 21, 2022 at 6:54 pm

    I too was interested in Clenbuterol, however was unable to find a doctor to prescribe so I could import.  My partner and I tried everywhere, vets, body builders and put the word out everywhere we could, unsuccessfully.   Which led me to find that the sports people aren’t doing ‘Clen’ rather they are using peptides. Mostly GHRP-6. – growth hormones.  I did some more digging and found that there are roughly 70 FDA approved peptides and counting as research discovers more of their ability to heal.  Peptides are illegal in New Zealand.:-( and hence there are no doctors, specialists, functional professionals that are knowledgeable about these.  I know that one of the ALS reversals was having GAC injections – I believe these are amino acids and therefore constitute a peptide.  I am interested to know more …

    Lisa Brown replied 1 year, 6 months ago 7 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Louis Savarese

    Member
    September 22, 2022 at 7:37 pm

    Hi Lisa,

    I too was very interested in Clenbuterol, so much so that I flew to North Carolina from NJ to see Dr. Richard Bedlack.  I spoke to him about the Italian study and his own small study.  He advised me that I might very well be better trying try the amino acid L-Serine (which I purchase through JoMar Labs 831-728-8010).  It is currently under phase 2 at Dartmouth. You start at 500mg 2x a day and double it each week until you reach 15,000 2x a day.  I have reached that threshold without any side effects.

    God Bless,

    Louis

    • Lisa Brown

      Member
      September 26, 2022 at 12:25 am

      Hi, Thankyou Louis.   I will start taking L-serine more seriously now!

      • John Burkes

        Member
        October 6, 2022 at 9:57 pm

        <p style=”text-align: left;”>Louis, I just got this today. A little concerned about 15,000 mg of this a day. Is that correct work up to 15,000 mg or is it 1500 mg?</p>

      • John Burkes

        Member
        October 15, 2022 at 3:29 pm

        Did you go all 30 weeks before you reached 15000 2x a day, or did you jump head before 30 weeks?

    • Deleted User

      Deleted User
      November 14, 2022 at 5:34 pm

      Hello Louis,

      I hope this finds you at a good place with this amino acid. Can you please elaborate with its effects/ I am so new to reading and learning about what all people are trying to aid in the god life offers. Have you tried or heard of natural polyphenolic compounds? I am just realizing the written article on compounds. Have you tried any Chinese Herbs? I would love to hear about what you have tried and your experience with alternative treatments. Include please resources.  I look forward in hearing from you. Thank You very much

      Kim

  • NJGuy

    Member
    September 28, 2022 at 12:31 pm

    Hi Louis

    Thanks you for your post about L-serine.

    I would like to start with that. Question – are you sure about the max dose of 15000mg? or is it 1500mg? Does that come in a tablet form? or just powder?

    Thanks

     

  • NJGuy

    Member
    September 30, 2022 at 4:26 pm

    Hi Louis

    Sorry for that question, I just looked up the trial info, and it does say 15g x 2 daily dose of L-serine

    Related questions: How long have you been taking? and do you see any improvements?

    Thank you so much!

  • Bill

    Member
    October 18, 2022 at 2:50 pm

    taking clenbuterol for 6months but started very slow over 2 months to get to 7 mcg a day.

    Noticed right away more energy and then more core strength and breather compacity is still 100% after one year since diagnosis.

    Decided to stop clenbuterol for a week to try cycling it as on 3 weeks and off one week like body builders do to see if it was better. NO, with in 2 days noticed less strength and feeling tired. After starting up again felt better with in a day. So seems to be helping although slowly progressing still.

    L serine, now taking 15 g twice a day from 5 gram twice a day for several months but still progressing slowly. Will see if 15 g twice a day makes a difference.

    We got to beat this piece of Hell!

     

     

     

    • Deleted User

      Deleted User
      November 14, 2022 at 5:41 pm

      Hello Bill

      I read your post and thank you for sharing. Is the Clenbuteral a prescription medication? Is this medication a trial? ( I m so new to all of this and craving education).

      L-Serene is that showing improvement or at least slowing progression? Did you get the L Serine from a compounding pharmacy? Are there any other amino acids that were suggested? Anything new that you have included and are trying that is helping improve your QOL so you can cycle?

      Thank you for answering these questions. The more information the BEST!!

      Kim

    • Lisa Brown

      Member
      November 15, 2022 at 8:18 pm

      Hi Bill, can you advise where to purchase Clenbuterol? Thank you.

  • Gideon

    Member
    November 17, 2022 at 6:29 pm

    Dear Kim
    Why are you taking a drug Clenbuteral cost weight loss is illegal in US do to HAZARDOUS health effects
    When you have ALS your goal to gain weight! The fat tissue in the body protects your muscle
    Did you decide to take it on your own?

    • Deleted User

      Deleted User
      November 20, 2022 at 10:59 am

      Good Morning Gideon,

      I m not taking Clenbuteral.

      I am not an ALS patient but have two active patients and one that lives away ( in Tenn.) and I am trying very hard to find out 1. what others are taking and 2. alternatives that others are trying. I am a Chinese medical acupuncturists and utilize herbal prescriptions for people as well as homeopathic ( as I also have a PhD. in nutrition). I am getting referrals for ALS patients and like the majority of providers am looking for the best I can do for these patients.   The person in Tenn. is very close to my heart. In reaching out to my collogues three of them referenced Ionization ( both drinking and IV), neuropuncture and Bob Flaws book containing the “wilting disease” ( this is both referencing acupuncture and herbs). I have read about PEMF, and a lot more ( extensive list).  AS Dagmar pointed out to me and I agree, practitioners promise the “wild wild west” of alternative remedies promising the world. I am not like that with people. I try to educate the best I can and allow them to make decisions on their own. I also give them the reference or provider that referenced the material. Kind of a protective devise that I have built protecting people that go to alternative providers promising and not being able to deliver. Plus some can make things worse. My goal is to assist in helping with the quality of life. not removing and being disgusted and let down.

      Thank you for responding as I understand the gaining weight will help with muscle. Anything else you can contribute I would love to hear from you.

      • Lisa Brown

        Member
        November 22, 2022 at 1:39 am

        Hi Kim,  I am slow progressing.  However speed has increased dramatically in last 3 months.  I attribute this to slackening of my strict diet.   Do not eat dairy, eggs, milk, wheat, gluten, cheese.   90% greens – preferably fresh and organic – avoid mass produced foods.  Add Leap2bfit amino complex and vitamins and minerals.

        See a naturopath and kill off all viruses and address other needs from tests.

        Start with cleansing the gut and detox diet – fulvic/humic acids – medical medium detox.  Makes me feel great and with energy to get up and last all day before collapsing in my arm chair.

        Hope this helps.

  • Gideon

    Member
    November 18, 2022 at 7:15 am

    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/study/NCT04245709 The trial was ended on March 10
    Second Trial NO 3rd Trial

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